Fisking Noonan

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Mark Noonan at Blogs for Bush:

Yep, we conservative Christians are just a bunch of hijackers

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) – Sen. Barack Obama told a church convention Saturday that some right- wing evangelical leaders have exploited and politicized religious beliefs in an effort to sow division. "Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart. It got hijacked," the Democratic presidential candidate said in remarks prepared for delivery before the national meeting of the United Church of Christ.

"Part of it’s because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, who’ve been all too eager to exploit what divides us," the Illinois senator said.

"At every opportunity, they’ve told evangelical Christians that Democrats disrespect their values and dislike their church, while suggesting to the rest of the country that religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage, school prayer and intelligent design," according to an advance copy of his speech.

Given that Obama’s religion performs rituals which are supposed to unite in holy matrimony people of the same sex, I think there might be something more to our opposition to liberalism than some sort of sick desire to just divide people. You know, Senator, it just might be liberalism’s insistence upon such things as gay marriage which is driving the wedge?

Liberals’ insistence?  Take a look at what constitutional amendments are appearing in state legislatures, Noonan.  You don’t see a bunch of gay people trying to pass gay marriage laws.  You see Christian homo-bigots trying to pass laws restricting marriage to men and women only.

Maybe we Christians were just minding our own business until we discovered that the left was hijacking America?

L:aughable that Noonon employes the phrase "minding our own business".  Simple question, Mark: If two women who living four blocks away from you, who you don’t know about, want to live together in matrimony, how does this become "your business"?

Some times it is useful to approach issues with an open mind and consider different points of view – you should try it, Senator.

Hahahahaha.  Yes, by advocating marriages among gay people, it is Senator OBAMA that has a closed mind!  Snarf, snortle.

We’re getting rather tired of this run-around, anyways. This is the way the left/right dialogue goes on moral issues:

Liberal: "Hey, we’d like to have gay marriage."

Two Thousand Year Old Faith: "That is an interesting concept but we believe that it might not be in the best interest of all concerned to rush into such a thing."

That’s what they said about the abolition of slavery, Two Thousand Year Old Faith.

And can you explain WHY it "might not be in the best interest"?  And can you explain who these "all concerned" people ARE?

L: "We’re filing a lawsuit tomorrow claiming that the equal protection clause requires that gay people be allowed to marry."

TTYOF: "Look, we’ve checked carefully on this and it seems that in our faith and in the long-standing traditions of our society, there is no provision for same sex marriage. We love our bothers and sisters who have a deep-seated inclination towards homosexuality, but to say that two men or two women can be married is a direct contravention of laws both human and divine on what makes a marriage."

Oh, I see.  YOUR faith.  YOUR traditions. 

They said the same thing about abolition of slavery, Noonan.

L: "You bigots!!!"

Well, ain’t it so?

What we are tired of is the left introducing novelty into society and then saying we’re being devisive when we’re unready to immediately accept the latest leftwing fad as the last word on what is right and wrong.

Gay people aren’t a novelty.

Oh, and conservatives said the same thing about the abolition of slavery, and women voting.  And desegregation.  Did I mention that?

What I say to Senator Obama is: could you please stop dividing us? Stop dividing us into "rich" and "poor". Stop dividing us into "black" and "white".

He’s not.  Although you, Mr. Noonan, just got through saying there are different rules for "gay" and "straight" when it comes to marriage.  How is THAT not dividing?

Stop dividing us into the host of liberal boxes that you toss people into – we are all the children of God, and when some of us disagree with you, it isn’t because we hate you or your cause, but because we believe differently from you.

That’s fine.  Nobody is asking you to get gay married YOURSELF.  But your beliefs do not trump the rights of others.


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