Stupid Quote Of The Day

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Via Shakespeare’s Sister:

"The lifestyles depicted in this movie [Rent] are not the majority, not the lifestyles of 99.9 percent of the kids that live in these two towns," School Committee cochair Donna Mansolillo told a meeting of the committee this week.

That’s a school board member from Glocester, Rhode Island, talking about a controversy involving a high school field trip to see the movie "Rent".  Read more about it here.

That quote is the kind of thing that drives me nuts.  Yes, Mrs. Mansolillo — the lifestyles depicted in the movie "Rent" are NOT reflective of the way most people live in your town. 

But the same thing could be said for lifestyles depicted in the following films: "Pride and Prejudice", "Casablanca", "Gone With The Wind", "The Wizard of Oz", and, oh yes, "The Passion of The Christ".

And just about every other movie made.

Should we just ban the film and television medium altogether in Glocester?

The notion that we should shrinkwrap and blindfold our kids is antithetical to the idea of education.  Education means openness and exposure, and learning about new things.  It is not, as conservatives seem to think, indoctrination of one finite set of values.

And seeing interracial and gay people on the movie screen (as well as heterosexual couples) does NOT mean the teens of Glocester are going to become gay (or a different race or heterosexual or whatever).

But the best quote comes from a school board member who actually has a, you know, brain about the whole controversy:

"I just don’t get what the problem is," Kelly Hunter said. "If you don’t want your kid to go, don’t sign the [permission] slip."

And there you have it!

But, noooooo….. The sanctimonious moral crusaders want to control everybody’s kid.  They want NOBODY to be exposed to diversity.

Friday iPod Random Ten – The Christmas List

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Nhsnow I haven’t done this in a while, but because I’ve blogged so much about the "War on Christmas" lately, I thought I’d see how anti-Christ I am by checking out the holiday Christmas songs on my iPod.

All songs are graded on the zero-to-ten O’Reilly Scale ("0" means I am damned for all time; "10" means you can bring on the Rapture, because I’m coming home to Jesus):

(1)  Wonderful Christmas – Paul McCartney — Okay, a pretty lame song, but it *does* use the word Christmas.  On the other hand, nothing specifically about Jesus.  O’Reilly score: 5

(2)  Lieutenant Kije Suite – Prokofiev — Not a word about Jesus, or even Christmas.  Just a classical song invoking a sleigh ride.  And we know that they didn’t have sleighs in Bethlehem.  O’Reilly score: 0

(3)  What Child Is This/Greensleeves – Charlotte Church — The "child", of course, is Baby Jesus.  And Charlotte Church?  Even her name has a Christian ring. Yippee!!  O’Reilly score: 10

(4)  Jingle Jingle Jingle – From "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer" — Nope.  Nothing about Jesus.  Calls Santa Claus by the name "Kris Kringle".  O’Reilly score: 0

(5)  O Tannenbaum – Vince Guaraldi (from "A Charlie Brown Christmas") — Jazz?  On Jesus’ birthday? O’Reilly score: 2

(6)  The Meaning of Christmas – From "A Charlie Brown Christmas" — This isn’t a song; this is the soliloquy that Linus gives where he quotes from the Bible about the babe wrapped in swaddling cloth.  O’Reilly score: 11

(7) You’re A Mean One, Mr. Grinch – From the special of the same name — Well, even though this special purports to be about the meaning of Christmas, it mentions nothing about Jesus.  It’s all about love and singing and being nice to people.  O’Reilly score: 1

(8)  Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow – Ella Fitzgerald — This song not only fails to mention Jesus, but it doesn’t even mention Christmas.  It’s just a secular weather report.  O’Reilly score: 0

(9)  Winter Wonderland – Annie Lennox — Here we go again.  This song not only fails to mention Jesus, but it doesn’t even mention Christmas.  In fact, it mocks religion during the part where it talks about Parson Brown.  O’Reilly score: 0

(10)  The Little Drummer Boy – Harry Simeone Chorus — A song about a poor kid who does a drum solo for Baby Jesus.  Mary and Joseph politely smile, but are actually happier with the gold and frankincense and myrrh from those other guys.  O’Reilly score: 8

AVERAGE SCORE: 3.7

That means that I hate Christmas, but I’m not quote to the point where I’m burning creches in my spare time.

Edgar Renteria Traded To Braves

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That leaves the Red Sox without a shortstop.

TEN REASONS WHY THE RED SOX SHOULD MAKE ME THEIR SHORTSTOP:

(10)  I’ll play for "almost nothing", which in professional baseball terms means five times as much as I make now.  And I won’t ask for any raises.  Promise.

(9)  My lack of shortstop experience will lull the opposing teams into a false sense of security.

(8)  Shortstop isn’t really a pivotal position anyway.

(7)  As I keep advancing into middle age, my impending hearing loss will make me immune to taunts and jeers from irate fans.

(6)  Saw the whole Ken Burns documentary "Baseball" from start to finish. 

(5)  Can play drums or keyboard behind Bronson.

(4)  When David Wells asks "Does my butt look big in this uniform", I know how to answer that question.

(3)  I own my own glove and don’t do steroids.

(2)  Won’t scratch crotch during games.

(1)  Got my "hey batta batta batta batta" thing down pat.

Who Took The Christ Out Of O’Reilly?

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Jesus_preachingI don’t normally have a "Commentary Of The Week", but a post by Kevin Hayden at The American Street is so spot-on, that I will instigate the accolade solely for his post, and then retire it afterward.  Kevin writes:

Bill O’Reilly, desperate and ready to throw himself on the floor, kicking and screaming if need be to regain attention, no longer busies himself squeezing his loofah, but has begun an assault on nobody visible, claiming his invisible tormentors are trying to take Christ out of Christmas.

Now let’s see if I’ve got this straight. A humble carpenter displays random acts of kindness, generosity and mercy, hangs out with a pack of rough-edged blue collar workers, feeds the hungry, heals the sick, brings the dead to life and advises any who listen to care for the weak and visit the jailed, encouraging the wealthy to forgo their loot.

Evil_billOn the other hand, a mean talking, bullying, war belligerent who denigrates the weak, sick, poor and jailed, sexually harasses an underling, shouts down grieving family members of those killed on 9-11, and otherwise displays arrogance, hatred and pompousity.

I should think the real question folks should be asking is “Who took Christ out of Bill O’Reilly?”

I also think that question could be asked of more publicly self-professed Christians who simply never walk their talk.

Kevin asks the question rhetorically, but I don’t.  I want a serious answer. 

I’ve read the Bible and what Jesus taught.  Wouldn’t the best way to honor Jesus — especially on his birthday — involve heeding his lessons of love and generosity, rather than engaging in a bullying self-righteous "war" on merchandisers and other belief systems?

RELATED:  The Kevin Hayden post above mentions "invisible tormentors [who] are trying to take Christ out of Christmas".  I’ve touched upon this point before.  Who ARE these people that O’Reilly and others are attacking?  Because I don’t see them.  I have always suspected that there is a little code-talk within these conservative Christian rants.

Well, we have an answer, and it should come as no surprise.

Townhall.com is a product of The Heritage Foundation, which is enormously influential in the Republican Party.  The site sports "serious" conservative viewpoints and columnists — people like George Will, etc. 

It hasn’t escaped many people’s attention that today, one particular columnist on Townhall comes from behind the veneer, drops the code words, and exposes the truth behind the War on the "War on Christmas".

According to him, who is behind the "War on Christmas"?  Who is the enemy?

The Jews.  Yup.  First O’Reilly attacks Jon Stewart (a Jewish comedian) for supposedly advocating secularism, and now this.  Here’s some quotes from the Townhall article by Bert Prutlusky (entitled "The Jewish Grinch Stole Christmas"):

JewsstolexmasI never thought I’d live to see the day that Christmas would become a dirty word. You think it hasn’t? Then why is it that people are being prevented from saying it in polite society for fear that it will offend?

… How is it, one well might ask, that in a Christian nation this is happening?

… Although it seems a long time ago, it really wasn’t, that people who came here from other places made every attempt to fit in.

… When it comes to pushing the multicultural, anti-Christian, agenda, you find Jewish judges, Jewish journalists, and the ACLU, at the forefront.

… But the dirty little secret in America is that anti-Semitism is no longer a problem in society; it’s been replaced by a rampant anti-Christianity. For example, the hatred spewed towards George W. Bush has far less to do with his policies than it does with his religion. The Jews voice no concern when a Bill Clinton or a John Kerry makes a big production out of showing up at black Baptist churches or posing with Rev. Jesse Jackson because they understand that’s just politics. They only object to politicians attending church for religious reasons.

… It is the ACLU, which is overwhelmingly Jewish in terms of membership and funding, that is leading the attack against Christianity in America. It is they who have conned far too many people into believing that the phrase “separation of church and state” actually exists somewhere in the Constitution.

… I happen to despise bullies and bigots. I hate them when they represent the majority, but no less when, like Jews in America, they represent an infinitesimal minority.

I am getting the idea that too many Jews won’t be happy until they pull off their own version of the Spanish Inquisition, forcing Christians to either deny their faith and convert to agnosticism or suffer the consequences.

It comes as no surprise that at the heart of the War on the "War on Christmas", it’s pure ole-fashioned, KKK-esque anti-semitism.   It’s so classic that it is almost trite: heck, the phrase "liberal media" comes straight out of the old far-right "Jew media" and "Jew York Times" stuff.  "Liberal" and "Jew" used to be interchangable words for the Far Right. 

Let’s turn to this quote:

"And it has become pretty general. Last Christmas most people had a hard time finding Christmas cards that indicated in any way that Christmas commemorated Someone’s Birth. Easter they will have the same difficulty in finding Easter cards that contain any suggestion that Easter commemorates a certain event. There will be rabbits and eggs and spring flowers, but a hint of the Resurrection will be hard to find. Now, all this begins with the designers of the cards."

Who said it?  Bill O’Reilly again?  John Gibson?  Maybe I’ll send you a Macy’s Merry Christmas gift card if you guess correctly.  (Or . . . if you’re a Christmas-robbing Jew, then this).

Too late.  The author of those words was Henry Ford.  They come from his 1921 tract "The International Jew," a vile piece of anti-semitic garbage blaming the International Jew Conspiracy for, well, everything bad in America.

Times haven’t changed that much, and Townhall today proves it.

UPDATE: More from Pandagon.

Place Yer Bets!

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Mike Wallace ("60 Minutes") gave an interview with the Boston Globe, which appeared online today, including this:

Q. President George W. Bush has declined to be interviewed by you. What would you ask him if you had the chance?

A. What in the world prepared you to be the commander in chief of the largest superpower in the world? In your background, Mr. President, you apparently were incurious. You didn’t want to travel. You knew very little about the military. . . . The governor of Texas doesn’t have the kind of power that some governors have. . . . Why do you think they nominated you? . . . Do you think that has anything to do with the fact that the country is so [expletive] up?

How soon will it be before Michelle Malkin calls Wallace "unhinged" and tries to extrapolate his comments to the entire media?

George Mason University Dean Is Stupid

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From an unrelated post at Powerline, I came across this quote.  It is contained within a message from George Mason University Law School Dean Daniel Polsby to a student reporter at the Harvard Crimson:

I do hope that next time the Crimson covers the gay marriage issue, you will see fit to point out that gays are demanding an exception to the marriage law that generally applies to everyone else. That law says you can get married if: (1) you are of age, (2) are not married and (3) can find someone of the opposite sex who wants to marry you. Applies with perfect neutrality, irrespective of sexual orientation don’t you see.

No, I don’t "see".   How can a law which allows marriage only if you "find someone of the opposite sex" be perfectly neutral on the issue of sexual orientation?  It is very specifically and intentially NOT being neutral on the issue of sexual orientation.

Sure, the law is neutral with respect to sex (i.e., gender), but that’s a different matter altogether from sexual orientation.  Could it be that the Dean of the George Mason University Law School is too stupid to know the difference?

Besides, what he says about Massachusetts law is not true.

Report From Dover, PA

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The non-online New Yorker had a good article about the machinations of the Dover, Pennsylvania school board who wanted to insert a religious-based curriculum into the public schools, including the teaching of intelligent design.

Fortunately, the American Taliban on the school board were voted out of office, and the curriculum nonsense was put to an end.

But the New Yorker articles contains some unknown facts, including this, via Crooked Timber:

The night after the board approved the evolution disclaimer, Brad Neal, a social-studies teacher at the high school, had an e-mail exchange with [assistant superintendent Mike] Baksa. “In light of last night’s apparent change from a ‘standards-driven’ school district to the ‘living-word-driven’ school district … I would like some direction in how to adapt our judicial-branch unit,” Neal wrote. “It is apparent that the Supreme Court of the United States has it all wrong. Is there some supplemental text that we can use to set our students straight as to the ‘real’ law of the land? We will be entering this unit within the next month and are concerned that we would be polluting our students’ minds if we continue to use our curriculum as currently written in accordance with [state] standards.”

Neal’s message was sarcastic, but Baksa’s reply was not. “Brad, all kidding aside, be careful what you ask for,” he wrote back. I’ve been given a copy of ‘The Myth of Separation,’ by David Barton, to review from board members. Social studies curriculum is next year. Feel free to borrow my copy to get an idea where the board is coming from.”

Anyone familiar with this book "The Myth of Separation" and the Christian Nation propagandist David Barton?  You should be.  I shudder to think that this was contemplated being taught in schools.

O’Reilly Takes On The Daily Show

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Yes, yes, I know.  The "War on Christmas" is in danger of being overdone here.  But just when I think it has reached the pinnacle of silliness, along comes the next wave of sheer lunacy.

And you know that Bill O’Reilly is riding that wave.

As Brad Blog and Media Matters have pointed out, Corporal O’Reilly has launched his latest offensive at Jon Stewart at the Daily Show.  On December 2, O’Reilly showed a clip in which Daily Show correspondent Samantha Bee said the following:

But really, let’s face it. All other days bow down to the 25th. It’s the only religious holiday that’s also a federal holiday. That way, Christians can go to their services and everyone else can stay home and reflect on the true meaning of separation of church and state.

Com_ds_fox_war_on_xmas_051207a1When O’Reilly introduced the clip on his December 2 show, he said it was from "last night" (meaning, December 1).  It wasn’t.  The clip was from last year, a fact which was brought into stark relief when a quite pregnant Samantha Bee appeared on last night’s Daily Show.  Jon Stewart played the clip again, and then brought on Samantha Bee, who, unlike the Samantha Bee in the clip, was extremely pregnant.  "Last night"?!?

But Bill O’Reilly’s bad fact-checking isn’t the issue here.  It’s his stupidity.  Apparently, he is too dumbass moronic to understand the difference between actual social commentary by the supposed hordes of "librels" seeking to remove all religious connotations from Christmas . . . and satire making fun of paranoid conservatives who feel oppressed and persecuted whenever a checkout clerk utters the words "Happy Holidays" to them.

And The Talent Show has even more:

What’s funnier . . . is that O’Reilly is targeting Jon Stewart. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, Bill, but Jon Stewart is a Jew and Jews don’t celebrate Christmas. When you’ve sunk to the point that you’re attacking non-Christians for not celebrating Christian holidays, your witchhunt has completely jumped the shark. I say you hang this one up and prepare for your next crusade. Here’s a suggestion : Did you know that those anti-American bastards in Canada don’t even celebrate the Fourth of July?! If we can stretch that one between May and July sweeps weeks, then we’re good as gold.

War on Christmas — the gift that keeps on giving.

UPDATE:  Media Matters has a more detailed blow-by-blowhard, including what Jon Stewart said:

STEWART: But apparently, we liberal secular fags here at Comedy Central —

[laughter]

STEWART: — have fired a devastating year-old six-second-long joke that doesn’t barely even make any sense to us anymore across the bow of Christianity. When you think of liberals, your thoughts naturally turn to others who are fighting against Christmas like the Puritans: the first white Americans who banned Christmas celebrations for 22 years in Boston because they deemed all of them unseemly. Godless pricks.

[laughter]

STEWART: Mr. O’Reilly also objects, obviously, to the use of the phrase "Happy Holidays" as anti-Christian, although, for some people, there is also a — a celebration of the New Year. So Christmas and the New Year are actually two holidays, so there is a plural, which in the English language necessitates the use of the letter "S." Now, I suppose you could say "Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year" but you probably have (expletive) to do.

[laughter, applause]

STEWART: You shorten it to "Happy Holidays."

[laughter]

STEWART: Not everybody who says that is anti-Christian, but for those of you who don’t feel like you want to be idiots walking around starting on November 27 saying "Merry Christmas" to people, knock yourself out. You know what, it’s OK. If Bill O’Reilly needs to have an enemy, needs to feel persecuted, you know what? Here’s my Kwanzaa gift to him. Are you ready? All right. I’m your enemy. Make me your enemy. I, Jon Stewart, hate Christmas, Christians, Jews, morality, and I will not rest until every year families gather to spend December 25th together at Osama’s homo-abortion-pot-and-commie-jizzporium.

[applause]

Applause indeed.

In My Life

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JlmemI was a freshman at Tufts University on December 8, 1980.  It was a rather dreary day outside as I recall, although I also recall not going outside — I was in the midst of studying for finals.  My first college finals, in fact.  And because I was intimidated by the unknown, I was studying hard and diligently.

At that time, my friend and guru in all matters collegiate was a warm and wonderful Tufts senior named Judy Pike, who took me under her wing for God-knows-what reason.  She thought I was "cute" — at least that’s what she said — and I held her in high regard, but for her obvious lack of taste and high standards in men.  Anyway, her reassurances that I not stress over final exams went largely unheeded.

But she did interrupt my studies late that evening with a phone call to see how I was doing.  We talked about psychology — I was studying for my Intro to Psychology finals, and she was a psychology major.  We were also commiserating about the recent election of Ronald Reagan.

Anyway, she must have had her T.V. on in the background because she suddenly interrupted the flow of the conversation.  "Oh, my God," she said.  "Lenin’s been shot."  I was pretty sure that Lenin was already dead, and had been for many decades.  I was struggling to recall when he died, but before I could say anything, Judy added: "John Lennon."

As I recall, the news of his actual death came shortly after that — within minutes

I was not then, and am not now, a huge John Lennon fan.  But that was one of those few watershed moments in life where you have to sit back and wonder — aloud — "why"?  All he did was talk and sing about peace and love.  Of course, he was in a long line of peaceloving people who got shot — MLK, Bobby, etc.  The fact that it turned out to be a deranged fan, rather than someone with a political vendetta, made the senseless assassination all the more senseless.

Lennon was 40 when he was killed.  I’m 43 now, and still looking for my Yoko.  I try to derive some wisdom and meaning from that, from his death, from the anniversary of his death.  I have nothing.  It’s just something that happened to someone who took a different path than me.  And it recalls a much simpler time in my life, when a young unjaded man’s innocence could be shaken by such an event.

The Local Press Reviews Bush’s Visit To Kernersville Earlier This Week

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Kernersville is small town located right in between Winston-Salem (where I am) and Greensboro.  Since it doesn’t have a newspaper of its own, let’s see what its media neighbors had to say about Bush’s visit to a John Deere plant in "K-Vegas".  The Rude Pundit writes so I don’t have to:

The lead editorial from today’s Winston-Salem Journal (which has the same initials as the Wall Street Journal, but is significantly less evil) about the Bush visit is titled "Walk the Walk." The Journal comments, "[Bush] painted his administration as one that’s fiscally conservative, when its reckless spending has been anything but. He noted encouraging economic figures released last month, but those figures hardly offset all the manufacturing jobs that have been lost – especially since the jobs being created often pay less than those lost." However, the speech was, typically, a set-up, a little play for the cameras: "[T]he president spoke to an invitation-only crowd at the plant Monday, so nobody was questioning him, at least publicly."

And the Greensboro News-Record dared to fact check the shiny, happy numbers Bush touted. In the speech, Bush, in one of those festive misspeaks that make him so much fun to hear and read, said, "Today, one of every 12 jobs in North Carolina is exported by — is supported by exports. In other words, one in 12 of the people who work in this state do so because they’re selling a product overseas." However, Marta Hummel notes, "Since Bush took office, the state has lost 172,000 manufacturing jobs, many in the Piedmont Triad" (the region of the John Deere plant).

Lying in the Triad.

Of course, it’s nothing new under the sun:

During a debate with then-Vice President Al Gore on Oct. 11, 2000, in Winston-Salem, N.C., Bush said: "I don’t think our troops ought to be used for what’s called nation-building. . . . I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands they live in to build the nations. Maybe I’m missing something here. I mean, we’re going to have a kind of nation-building corps from America? Absolutely not."

Jews vs. Tea

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Sounds like UNC law professor Eric Muller is having a lot of fun, and I’m a bit envious.

He is at the National Archives in D.C., doing research for his book about internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII.

In this very recent blog post, he notes that back in the 1940s, the War Department (that’s the "Department of Defense" for all you kiddies out there) kept its filing system in such a way that some files would be adjacent to other files on completely unrelated topics.  Because of this peculiarity, Muller stumbled upon a file from then-Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy — a filed simply labelled "Jews".

In it, Muller learned something which surprised him (and me). 

Sometime in 1944, a top Gestapo official in Turkey approached the British through a "Zionist official".  It was an offer for a deal: the Nazis would give up pursuing of total extermination of the Jews in exchange for war supplies and provisions.

For example, Germany offered to "evacuate" one million Jews from the occupied countries of Hungary, Romania, Czechoslovakia, and Poland — to the countries of Spain and Portugal — in return for 10,000 trucks of "coffee, tea,  cocoa, and soap".

According to Muller, the Brits and the U.S. said "no".  And he provides a graphic:

Jewsforlorries

That’s a pretty remarkable find.  And I wonder why that proposal was rejected.  I’m not sure I disagree with it — after all, there was no certainty that the Nazis would keep their end of the bargain. 

On the other hand, the Nazis offered to to release "five to ten thousand" as an act of good faith . . . before the tradeoff.  And even if the Allies were duped, all we lost was some breakfast drinks.

But then again, such an operation might have thwarted D-Day efforts, which were in the making (D-Day was only weeks away).

Anyway, war historians can sort it out.  I just thought it was noteworthy.

UPDATE:  Another Muller discovery.

RELATED:  Holocaust denier ho-hummer Mel Gibson really isn’t the guy to make a miniseries about the Holocaust.

Obama ’08?

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Since he first showed up on my radar, I have always thought that Barack Obama will be, and should be, President of the United States.  I expected him to run in the next decade.  But there is a lot of buzz about hin running the next time around.  And it is convincing a lot of people:

Over at The New Republic (subscription only), Ryan Lizza makes the case for Obama, giving voice to some thoughts I’ve had over the past few months.

The main objection to an Obama run is his obvious lack of experience. He needs at least a full Senate term before he is taken seriously, the argument goes. On the one hand, each day spent in the Senate gives Obama more experience and stature for his inevitable presidential campaign. But each day also brings with it an accumulation of tough votes, the temptations of bad compromises, potentially perilous interactions with lobbyists, and all the other behaviors necessary to operate as a successful senator. At some unknowable date in the future, remaining in the Senate will reach a point of diminishing returns for Obama. The experience gained by being a good senator will start to be outweighed by the staleness acquired by staying in Washington.

Essentially, by running for President in 2008, Obama could overcome the traditional disadvantage of a long career in the Senate. As we all saw in the 2004 election, John Kerry’s decades of votes were easily manipulated and misrepresented by the Republicans.

As Lizza points out, Obama’s been working pretty hard to prove he’s no lightweight. Specifically, he references Obama’s work with foreign policy heavyweight Sen. Dick Lugar on nuclear proliferation issues and his leadership on avian flu preparedness.

One interesting thing about the idea that Obama’s too inexperienced to run for President — and Lizza doesn’t mention it — is that, by 2008, Obama will have a longer political resume than John Edwards did in 2004. Though Edwards had over five years in the Senate under his belt to Obama’s four, that was the sum total of Edwards’ career in elected office. (Similarly, another likely 2008 candidate, Virginia Governor Mark Warner, spent only four years in elected office.) By contrast, Obama served eight years in the Illinois state Senate prior to moving up to the U.S. Senate. That will be twelve years in elected office before a possible Presidential run in 2008. Suddenly, it doesn’t seem too early for Obama at all.

Not at all,  Lizza’s article also invokes the "Law of 14":

My favorite law of American politics is that candidates have only 14 years to become president. That is their expiration date.

Jonathan Rauch takes credit for "The Law of 14," though it was actually discovered by an aide to Dick Cheney: "With only one exception since the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt, no one has been elected president who took more than 14 years to climb from his first major elective office to election as either president or vice president:

George W. Bush took six years. Bill Clinton, 14. George H.W. Bush, 14 (to the vice presidency). Ronald Reagan, 14. Jimmy Carter, six. Richard Nixon, six (to vice president). John Kennedy, 14. Dwight Eisenhower, zero. Harry Truman, 10 (to vice president). Franklin Roosevelt, four. Herbert Hoover, zero. Calvin Coolidge, four. Warren Harding, six. Woodrow Wilson, two. William Howard Taft, zero. Theodore Roosevelt, two (to vice president). The one exception: Lyndon Johnson’s 23 years from his first House victory to the vice presidency.

So is it time for Obama?

UPDATE:  Kevin Drum thinks about the Obama and the Law of 14 — good post here.